everything from healthcare to the economy. and a time when the government's gotta step in to help, for example, our auto industry. to even disaster relief. and so yeah, if -- if -- let's say north carolina's doing a good job the governor of north carolina is doing a good job, then they get disaster relief. but if you got a governor, i'm saying maybe like in mississippi who doesn't give a crap and doesn't have anything in place the people of mississippi suffer. that's why you need fema. and remember, jimmy carter made fema a cabinet agency. george bush, bill clinton tao too. george w. bush put it in the bowels of the homeland security. then remember what happened with katrina. >> bill: down in san antonio hello, kathy. >> caller: good morning, bill. thank you for giving us a sane alternative. >> bill: to you know what. yes. >> caller: i wanted to say one of the problems was -- >> bill: hey, turn your radio or tv down in the background. >> caller: sorry. >> bill: little distracting. that's it. all right. >> caller: there are pro